. >> if you were in iowa you didn't know but if you were working at cbs news you damn well knew because i worked there. >> you may have known what he was offcamera but you didn't know on camera. >> decisions were made about personnel, story coverage, and point of view by cronkite, brokaw, and rather, who were committed left wingers. >> and koppel, you might aswell add him. >> i think he was just in a days all the time. i don't think you interfered that much. i was as abc and i heard the scuttle but about you. you weren't a big interferer, and jennings wasn't either. he didn't like all that ideology. that's why i didn't bring his name up. >> i'd rather you criticize me because your compliment are more damaging and more -- >> i got tell the truth, koppel. >> bill, what is it you think i have said about the network or written about the network? >> you think we corrupted the sanctity of fair news coverage. >> i think, i think that ideological coverage of the news, be it of the right or be it of the left, has created a political reality in this country which is bad for america. i think it's